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The US healthcare system impedes economic freedom

"Jon Cohn makes an obvious point: the current dysfunctional and stratospherically inefficient US healthcare system impedes economic freedom. It does so because people stay in jobs they may not be suited for, because they fear losing health insurance. Small businesses are hobbled by the soaring premiums, and many individuals are discouraged from going out on their own, taking risks, creating jobs, because they would lose basic healthcare and be unable to afford it, or even fail to get it at all if they have a pre-existing condition. Since the financial burden is borne primarily by the private sector, US companies also have a massive disincentive to hire more workers, because of the soaring insurance costs of adding a single employee."

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mgibbosh said over 2 years ago ...

You are so right a young man who is a self employed handy man last year plus a week end band member grossed 43 thousand dollars last year being single he had a heavy tax burden. He also had a pre existing condition of asthma in which he got insurance but at a very high premium of 749 dollars per month with a thousand dollar deductible on hospitalization. He recently was hospitalized for an infected appendix which caused him to be hospitalized 8 days for a cost 180 thousand dollars. Surgery and antibotics couldn't be that expensive. With 59 million people without health insurance who is paying the bill.

d6fer said over 2 years ago ...

The free market has been hamstrung with regulations.....especially in the case of health care.....if there were true competition in this industry, prices would drop.

HSA's, Tort reform, and competition across state lines would have a huge impact on the cost of health care, and wouldn't cost tax payers a dime to try it and find out.....if it works, we all win.....if it doesn't then you could tell us conservatives to shut up once and for all on the subject and it would make way for UHC.

reckoner said over 2 years ago ...

What you are suggesting is that we let poor people die, right?

d6fer said over 2 years ago ...

no, I'm suggesting we keep the system that we had prior to obamacare.....remove some of the regulation that is making regional monopolies possible and bring in some real competition......get rid of frivolous law suits, thereby reducing malpractice insurance rates for doctors.....and give incentives to those who exercise personal responsibility in regards to their own health care.....the poor will be taken care of, just as they were before.

reckoner said over 2 years ago ...

Keep the system we had? Seriously? It's terribly broken. Should insurance companies be allowed to deny coverage for pre-existing conditions? Should people go bankrupt from medical bills? Should people be afraid to leave a big company to start a business out of fear of losing insurance?

d6fer said over 2 years ago ...

You didn't pay attention to a thing I posted. Liberals don't want to try things that work, they want to exacerbate problems so people will look for king like leaders to provide magical solutions that "they don't have to pay for".

reckoner said over 2 years ago ...

I listened, and I asked specific questions you didn't address directly.

Should insurance companies be allowed to deny coverage for pre-existing conditions? Should people go bankrupt from medical bills? Should people be afraid to leave a big company to start a business out of fear of losing insurance?

Btw, there are many countries with better systems, and they don't look like what you are proposing.

d6fer said over 2 years ago ...

Should people be allowed to purchase fire insurance when their house is on fire?

reckoner said over 2 years ago ...

That's why we all pay taxes and get the fire dept.

I'm glad you agree that universal single payer makes the most sense.

Or, are you advocating letting sick people without insurance die?

d6fer said over 2 years ago ...

should people be able to purchase car insurance at the scene of their accident?

reckoner said over 2 years ago ...

No, that's why we mandate that all drivers get insurance.

Again you are proving why we need universal coverage.

d6fer said over 2 years ago ...

not in the least way....They should try an unmolested free market approach...if it don't work, you can say i told you so....but we both know it would work, and more people would become independent.

grapekoolaid said over 2 years ago ...

Social Darwinism? NOM NOM NOM

reckoner said over 2 years ago ...

So if a poor person shows up at the emergency room, should the emergency room be allowed to turn them away if they can't pay?

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